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12/17/2009

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Mitch Baker

I wish he'd apply this fallacy to the healthcare debate. I've seen two examples that I found particularly irksome. The first was when Bill Kristol was on "The Daily Show" and admitted that active military personnel get excellent healthcare provided by the government. Of course, Jon Stewart felt that this means the government could do the same for all Americans. I was disappointed that Bill didn't bat that down immediately, not to mention that the government is much less successful with retired personnel. The second is whenever someone demands or offers every American the same healthcare plan as what Congress gets. As the "employer" of the military and Congress, I have no problem providing these benefits, but the idea that we could do this for everyone is, well, fallacious.

Eddie Willers

Just another example of Socialism. Everyone deserves to get paid at least the same, no matter how much they contribute.

"From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs."

hiscross

Was Bill Kristol ever in the military? The answer is No. Like Barry and John, their talk isn't based on experience. I was in the military and now use its TriCare Plus healthcare system. It is what it is. My family has always been healthy. Why? Because we practice good health everyday. In other words, we stay healthy because we understand the down side. The Libs don't really care for our lifestyle much. Too bad for them.

Andrea

Who are people talking to when they decide military healthcare is great? Sure, I don't have to pay for most medical treatment, but waiting a month or more for each 10 minute appointment with a sub-par doctor hardly seems worth it. I'd rather pay, be able to choose my doctor, and get an appointment within a reasonable period of time. The only time I've found that the military health system works quickly is when you've got a short-notice deployment tasking.

Elizabeth G. Liebowitz

My concern with lower minimum wage is that it will actually increase demand on public services ("the dole") - here's my logic: if Company XYZ can pay workers less, it will. Existing workers could conceivably get a pay cut (potentially increasing their need for public assistance), but the company could hire some more low-level, low-producing workers at the lower wage, too. In theory, whatever small amount these workers do earn will still be too little to live on. Furthermore, if those workers happen to have kids that they've been watching at home, they'd have to have child care, which costs much more than minimum wage.

John Galt

Elizabeth,

Everybody consumes -- it's a fact of life. And right now there are people unemployed, as a result of the minimum wage, who are nevertheless consuming at the expense of everyone else. They are mostly young, and disproportionately dark-skinned.

It is entirely possible that these people will never be able to earn enough to cover the full cost of their own consumption, but there's no reason they can't -- or shouldn't -- make the greatest contribution they can. Better that a person makes 500 in earnings and draws 500 in welfare than simply drawing 1000 in welfare.

There is nothing in this to imply that anyone who currently has a job will somehow get paid less. We're talking about where the bottom rung is -- the "entry level" -- on a ladder that people spend their entire working lives climbing. Lowering the minimum wage doesn't push anyone "down" -- it simply puts the ladder within reach of more people.

We are all in this together. And right now the minimum wage keeps thousands who are consuming from making even token contributions. There's no reason they shouldn't be able to get on the ladder with the rest of us, and at least contribute what they can. They are consuming, and they can work. To forbid it, as the law currently does, is irrational.

Adam Freund

Krugman purposely ignores the entire point, wages are commensurate with productivity. According to his logic (and that of the left), higher productivity leads to less employment, not more.

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